Allow me to politely tell you that you’re a fucking moron.
The statement, “only those who believe in the Christian god can logically ground morality” is absolute nonsense.
You’re leaving out Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, etc etc.
Guess what? That’s MOST OF THE WORLD.
Just because you’re stuck in your little delusion of “Jesus loves me” doesn’t make you any better than the rest of us. Actually, I’d like to point out that there are probably a lot of people - even ATHEISTS - who are better people than you.
Go thump your Bible somewhere else, because morality has nothing to do with religion.
Sure, the Bible and the Quoran and the Torah and various other religious texts preach morality and good works toward men etc etc, but just because your sacred Jesus-book mentions being a good person, doesn’t mean they are the sole source of it.
Christ on a cracker, could that statement be any more arrogant?
No, the answer is no.
I once had someone ask me, “So, Christians have the Bible and the ten commandments to keep us from killing people… what keeps an Atheist from simply going around and killing people?”
The answer? Uh, science.
Humans have reached homeostasis (or, a general state of equilibrium, for those of you who didn’t pay attention in biology). What this means, is that we don’t NEED to kill people to survive. It’d be a different story if every food source we have today was somehow toxic. If we had to kill people for food, then there would be no moral argument about it - you eat people or you starve. That being said, Atheists tend to live a pretty normal, average life. Just like everybody else. Because we are like everybody else. We just don’t believe in an imaginary god.
Now, on the rape thing: how DARE YOU accuse Atheists of having no morals against rape. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? My personal stance against rape?
It fucking degrades the victim and infringes upon the rights of another.
“Consent” isn’t a term that’s foreign to godless individuals.
Get off your fucking high horse and go read a science book. Seriously.
How do Christians justify war? Oh yeah, “their god’s name isn’t spelled the same as ours.”
THIS PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH
Christians like this seriously need to take a long walk off a short pier.
Of course, now I’m sure I will.
Whatever. People suck, most of the time.
Especially those liberals who claim to be so tolerant and yet they can’t accept Christianity.
It makes me sick.
It’s also probably partly why I’m depressed all the time.
There are religious people who lean left…
PRIVILEGED CHRISTIAN TEAAARRS.
As a pastor, I don’t officially endorse candidates. I am a registered Independent who makes every attempt to take a biblical approach to issues related to politics. Though I try to refrain from talking about specific candidates and believe it is wrong to turn a church pulpit into a political “stump”, it is my responsibility to speak truth wherever I see it.
The following is an excerpt of an article I read this morning on the platform being adopted by the Democratic Party at this years convention. Fiscal issues I may disagree with aside, as a Christ-following political Independent, I can never support a candidate who takes this position:The 2012 Democratic party will officially adopt an extreme position on the issue of abortion on Tuesday. According to a copy of the party platform, which was released online just before midnight on Monday, “The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay.”
That last part—“regardless of ability to pay”—is an endorsement of taxpayer-funded abortions, a policy that President Obama has personally endorsed. (WS)
Clearly, there are thousands who agree with this position. That is beside the point. It is beyond reprehensible to try and force people to pay who do NOT and who consider this practice to be nothing short of the legalized murder of a human being who has done nothing wrong but simply come into existence. I wrote more on the subject here.
If there really is a desire to cut down on the number of abortions, how about government assistance for adoption instead? THAT I could support.
If you want to reduce abortions? Fight to increase access to comprehensive sex education and contraception regardless of ability to pay. Fight to socialize healthcare so that people who wind up pregnant are not afraid of what costs will be incurred just by being pregnant.
Adoption does not solve the issue of unwanted pregnancy, only unwanted parenthood.
In the meantime, don’t complain about your tax dollars going toward something you don’t like. The people who would benefit from these programs are not required to think like you do, and they pay taxes too. And their tax dollars go toward things THEY don’t like. Such as private school vouchers that go to religious schools, religious colleges accepting federal money, and crisis pregnancy centers. And those things actually ARE a violation of the Constitution.
Welcome to society.
Once upon a time I was talking to a great scientist. Somehow the topic of abortion came up (sorry, I tend to start that kind of shit I guess), and he made an interesting point.
If you believe in souls, then an embryo does not have one.
Consider that identical twins come from one fertilized egg cell that develops into two separate, but physically identical beings. If what makes a human the way they are is their soul, and a new soul is created at the moment of conception, then identical twins would share one soul, cut in two. They would, at their cores, be the same person.
But anyone who has met twins knows that this is not the case. While they may be in sync with each other the way close siblings and friends tend to be, they are still individuals. They are unique from one another. They are not one entity.
Ergo: science is still arguing over the point at which something stops being a cluster of cells and starts being a human being. Is it the point that it can feel pain? Is it the point that it has its first reactions to outside stimuli like light and laughter? Is it the point that it stops looking like an amphibious alien and starts looking more like us?
If you believe that the soul is what makes humanity human, then an embryo is not created with a soul. The magic moment in the oviduct isn’t actually when a little wiggly tadpole makes it to the big fuzzy ball. Eggs and sperm are flushed out of uteri and vans deferens every day. The big deal isn’t when they happen to meet. It’s when they (sometimes, but not always) stick around long enough to make a commitment involving trillions of cells. Sometimes it doesn’t work out. Sometimes it does. But there’s only so much a tadpole and a fuzzy ball can do.
If you believe in souls, there’s something extra that comes later and gives a multi-trillion-cell body its kick.
Thought provoking, and an enjoyable read. I always considered my soul to be the part of me that is aware and knows it’s alive. It’s the “I” — the ghost in the machine. I also understand that, based on that, if this is to be true of other humans, then someone might likewise argue that babies, then, do not have souls until they become self aware.
This is a possibility that many people who believe in the notion of souls would shudder to consider.
It’s true. It’s not your body.
You can’t argue with that. Science proves it.
It’s IN my body. Science proves that.
So I was watching this show a bit ago, and this guy went around whatever town he was in, and he was asking a bunch of people what their view on abortion was. Most of them were either for it, or weren’t for it but believed it was the mother’s choice. So the guy went on speaking to them and asked them, if they thought the holocaust was right. Most said no. He asked if they thought it was wrong but it was still Hitler’s choice. The wheels in their heads then began turning. He also asked them if they were Christians. The ones that answered yes, he then asked what the 6th commandment was. Not one of them answered yes. They were surprised when it was do not murder. By the end of their conversations just about all of them had changed their views from pro choice, to pro life. It’s amazing on how views can change when you compare abortion to the holocaust. This guy has the right idea.
The Holocaust and abortion are not in any way comparable. The guy was an offensive jerk.
You might be a conservative.
(Yes, I know Chick-Fil-A is denying it. But I don’t need this to be real to take issue with them.)
Of course they’re denying it, just like they’re deleting any comments on their facebook page regarding their notices that they discontinued their toys because they were a hazard to children.
#bible #scripture #Christianity #Christ #God #Jesus #church #abortion #reality #truth (Taken with Instagram)
Congratulations. You are officially a shitty person.
…you might be a liberal.
Or you might be every conservative politician right now.
…Save perhaps they change the topic to ignoring separation of church and state more than just separation of church and state.
Powerful, award-winning documentary, 180, highlighting abortion and its implications.
If you pro-choice liberals are as “open-minded” as you say you are, you’ll give this a view.
Have. I think what you mean to say is “If you pro-choice liberals are as gullible as I hope you are, you’ll give this a view and change your minds.”
It’s manipulative garbage, and offensive.
Come back when you have a real argument.
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